The WA5VJB pair has been wonderful for a year, but taking a step to an Arrow II 146/437-10BP satellite antenna, sans duplexer, would enhance enjoyment and, quite likely, signals received via the birds. EDIT: Ordered, arrived, and mostly assembled. New feedlines will be necessary. Thanks, KT. WB1AAT summarized Arrow versus Elk on the AMSAT-BB... ELK + cheaper all around + can be easily set up for permanent use + easier to aim due to wider beam width. Log periodic are like this. + smaller and very fast setup/teardown + one connector for dual band. - no handle for handheld use. You have to make one, but it's extremely easy to do. And no threads for tripod. - inconvenient if using 2 rigs. Must buy a separate duplexer. ARROW + copies a few degrees (just a few) lower than the Elk at my QTH + convenient built in handle and built in threads for tripod - narrower beam width - have to "aim" better. - not easily set up for permanent use. No simple mount and y...